Her hair
Soft drifted snow
Death white
We die tomorrow
Well she hates
All that she does
But she gives
It all that she's got
Until the sky turns green
The grass is several shades of blue
Every member of parliament trips on glue
Until the sky turns green
And the grass is several shades of blue
Every member of parliament trips on glue
It takes all these things and all our time
Till my sugar spun sister's happy
With this love of mine
It'll take all these things and oh much more
I've paid
For fifteen or more
But my guts
Can't take many more
My hands
Are stuck to my jeans
And she knows, she knows
What this must mean
She wakes up with the sun
She asks me 'what is all the fuss ?'
As she gave me more than she thought she should
She wakes up with the sun
I think 'what have I done ?'
As I gave her more than I thought I would
It takes all these things and all my time
Till my sugar spun sister's happy
With this love of mine
Yeah yeah yeah
The candyfloss girl
The sticky fingered boy
Oh that sister of mine (1)
Yeah her
Lyrics by:
Squire / Brown
Music by:
Squire / Brown
Written:
1986
Personnel:
John Squire (guitar)
Ian Brown (vocals)
Gary Mounfield (bass)
Alan Wren (drums, backing vocals)
Producer:
John Leckie
Engineer:
Paul Schroeder
Available on:
The Stone Roses (3.25)
The Stone Roses (10th Anniversary Edition) (3.26)
First live performance:
Liverpool Mardi Gras (August 1986)
Details:
In an interview with Stone Roses website 'I Am Without Shoes' in 2001, Mani claimed that 'Angel Of Harlem' by U2 was a rip off of (Song For My) Sugar Spun Sister. However, Angel Of Harlem - from U2's 1988 'Rattle And Hum' album - was released before (Song For My) Sugar Spun Sister (2). (Song For My) Sugar Spun Sister was debuted live in August 1986 at the Mardi Gras in Liverpool and for Mani's claim to be accurate, U2 would have had to have heard a live recording, or somehow heard a demo of the track in advance. With the assassination of the Queen taking place at the end of the preceding song (Elizabeth My Dear), this track opens brightly musically, almost as if to herald a new dawn. Musically, it borrows from 'Pretty Flamingo' by Manfred Mann, with this 60's track also providing the inspiration for Angel Of Harlem, I would imagine. From the same era as this Manfred Mann hit, one could possibly find the lyrical inspiration ("The candyfloss girl", etc). 'Sugar Sugar' by The Archies. This song by The Archies, the band's most successful hit, was one of the biggest hits of the 'bubblegum pop' genre that flourished from 1968 to 1972.
The Archies, Sugar Sugar (1969)
 
(Song For My) Sugar Spun Sister appears to be about a prostitute (3) who "hates all that she does but she gives it all that she's got"; I propose that Jesus is the 'Sugar Spun Sister'. The opening - "Her hair. Soft drifted snow. Death white..." - is derivative of the book of Revelation:
The lyric "She wakes up with the sun" (like other Roses songs such as I Am The Resurrection, Going Down, She Bangs The Drums and Waterfall) refers to the Resurrection of Christ. Jesus expressed worry to God in the Garden of Gethsemane yet, despite His torment, He nevertheless gave it all that He had, in vowing to carry through with God's will:
Jesus purposely chose the humble (fishermen) and outcasts of society to associate with, such as lepers and prostitutes (see Bye Bye Badman). The narrator of the song, just as on She Bangs The Drums, is a disciple of Jesus. The disciple comes to the realization that he has sinned ("I think 'what have I done ?'") after She (Jesus) wakes up with the Sun (is resurrected). This is remininiscent of Jesus's conversation with Thomas the Doubter, in which Thomas expresses doubt concerning the validity of His return:
Jesus had given Thomas "more than she thought she should" (have to) in offering physical proof to Thomas (allowing Thomas to touch Him) of his resurrection. However, I think that the narrator of the song is not Thomas, but rather, Judas Iscariot. Jesus appeared to the eleven disciples after Judas had died, and then to the twelve after Matthias had replaced Judas. Thus, Jesus never appeared to Judas, but I propose that the song is an imagined conversation between Jesus and Judas in the afterlife, rather like 'Until the End of the World' (1991) by U2. The opening lines of the song, I propose, are Judas' thoughts at the Last Supper, in the knowledge that he was about to betray Jesus. Jesus knew that Judas had agreed to betray Him, and in passing the bread to Judas, thus knew "what this must mean". Jesus declared at the table that Judas would be the one to betray Him. Jesus implicitly (passing the bread to Judas) demonstrates this to Judas, then subsequently makes it explicit, announcing that He Himself will die and that Judas may as well be dead also ("we die tomorrow"):
There are two different canonical references to how Judas' life ended. The Gospel of Matthew says that, after Jesus' arrest by the Roman authorities - but before his execution - the guilt-ridden Judas ("I think 'what have I done ?'") returned the thirty silver coins to the priests and committed suicide by hanging. The priests, forbidden by Jewish law from returning the money to the treasury, used it to buy the potter's field in order to bury strangers. The Gospel account presents this as a fulfilment of prophecy. In the Acts of the Apostles, Judas falls and his intestines spill out. This would explain why the narrator's "guts can't take any more" on (Song For My) Sugar Spun Sister. Another account was preserved by the early Christian leader, Papias: "Judas walked about in this world a sad example of impiety; for his body having swollen to such an extent that he could not pass where a chariot could pass easily, he was crushed by the chariot, so that his bowels gushed out."
So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.
(Matthew 27: 3 - 5)
(With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)
(Acts 1: 18 - 19)
The U2 song, Until the End of the World, from their 1991 album, Achtung Baby, is directed from Judas to Jesus after meeting Him in the afterlife. The first verse relates to the Last Supper ("We ate the food, we drank the wine"), the second verse relates to the betrayal of Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane and the third verse relates to Judas committing suicide, after becoming overwhelmed with guilt and sadness.
U2, Until the End of the World (1991)
 
 

 
 

 
 
The Stone Roses did more than simply kick off 'the Madchester revolution' (4) and their legacy should not be limited to such a capacity. They were the blueprint for Oasis (5) and integral to the reinvention of U2, a band who went on to become the biggest in the world:
'Achtung Baby' was released two years after Bono announced the band would have to "go away and dream it all up again", following the mixed reception of 1988's 'Rattle and Hum'. Brown goes on to explain how U2 realised musical potential within themselves in no small part through exposure to these LPs (7) but his assessment will also have been based to a small degree on how U2, just as The Stone Roses did on their debut album, structured some songs on 'Achtung Baby' along biblical lines (8). U2 in a sense created the follow-up to The Stone Roses' debut LP that the Roses' themselves failed to deliver in the early 1990s. The Stone Roses' 1989 debut is justifiably regarded as the finest album of its era, testament to which is how its influence helped shaped the next decade in the U.K., culturally and musically.
 
(1) Ian seems to ambiguously sing the final line of the song as "Oh that sister of mine" / "Older sister of mine".
(2) Mani was correct about U2 drawing inspiration from Begging You on 'Discotheque', for their 'Pop' album (March 1997), however. Speaking to I Am Without Shoes, Mani recalls his conversation with Bono: "I was speaking to Bono about that and he said (adopts Irish accent) 'Well you've got to take from somewhere, havent you ?'"
(3) This is supported somewhat by Ian's gesticulations during the performance of this song at Manchester Hacienda on 27th February 1989.
(4) Hot Press interview from March 2002. 'Madchester' was a term given to the late 1980s / early 1990s Manchester music scene, in which The Stone Roses were unhappily categorised. Other 'Madchester' bands included The Happy Mondays, Inspiral Carpets and The Charlatans and electronic music outfits such as 808 State and A Guy Called Gerald. Madchester music was a combination of indie rock, psychedelia and dance. In many instances it came out of collaboration between guitar-based groups and dance music producers. Producers such as Paul Oakenfold, Martin Hannett, Andrew Weatherall and Stephen Hague had a significant impact upon the Madchester scene, frequently incorporating elements of the mid-tempo 'Balearic' dance style associated with Ibiza nightclubs at that time. The Madchester scene was marked by an influx of drug culture into the city (predominantly Ecstasy) that helped fuel the rise of some of the most popular dance music clubs of the time, such as Fac 51 Haçienda. 'The Haçienda' was run by Factory Records record label impresario Tony Wilson, whose label signed many of the artists associated with the Madchester scene, such as The Happy Mondays and New Order. 'Madchester' effectively happened around The Stone Roses without them being an active part of it. Speaking to Mojo magazine in Autumn 2001, Squire expressed his dissatisfaction at the Roses' association with the scene: "I was getting sick of the whole 'Madchester' thing. I felt like we were flogging something for somebody, but I didn't know what it was or who they were. A lifestyle, I suppose. An attitude." Speaking to NME in December 1989 about the band's wish not to be exclusively confined to the Manchester scene, Squire quoted Samuel Johnson (1709 - 1784), "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel", before adding, "and the same goes for regionalism." According to biographer James Boswell, Johnson made this pronouncement on the evening of 7th April 1775, and stresses that Johnson was not indicting patriotism in general, only false patriotism. Ian Brown, speaking to Uncut magazine in February 1998, is heavily critical of the 'Madchester' roster of acts:
(5) At the turn of the 90's, the North-West's two finest acts - The La's and The Stone Roses - had hit brick walls. Lee Mavers became the JD Salinger of pop, and the globe held by Ian Brown in 1990 was to exchange hands; the lyric, "We live in the shadows and we had the chance and threw it away", from 'Hello', the opening track of Oasis' follow-up album '(What's the Story) Morning Glory ?', served as a knowingly fitting epitaph by Noel Gallagher to the stalled Roses. The Stone Roses appeared in Select Magazine in December 1995, two months after the release of '(What's the Story) Morning Glory?'. John Squire is seen 'mouthing' the words "Hello ! Hello ! It's good to be back !", a lyric from 'Hello', leading one to conclude that the Roses themselves were aware of this connection. 'Don't Look Back in Anger', from the same Oasis album, also contains a veiled allusion to The Stone Roses' hiatus from the music scene. Noel has since stated in interviews that Sally in this song refers to Sally Cinnamon. Thus, "So Sally can wait, she knows it's too late as we're walking on by" can easily be interpreted as Oasis overtaking their mentors, The Stone Roses ('Sally'). Liam Gallagher was responsible for this addition to the song; in a 2006 radio interview, Liam said that it was he who came up with the lyric "So Sally can wait", as Noel was struggling with that particular line at the time. Noel confirms this on the bonus DVD, entitled 'Lock the Box', released with the 'Stop the Clocks' retrospective album: "I was doing it in the soundcheck and the 'So Sally' bit, I wasn't singing that...and he (Liam) says, "Are you singing 'So Sally can wait ?', and I said, 'No.' And he said, 'Well you should do.'" The La's were a great influence on both Gallagher brothers, with Noel Gallagher declaring days after the release of Oasis' debut single that his masterplan was to "finish what The La's started." The Oasis song, 'The Importance of Being Idle', borrows heavily from 'Clean Prophet' by The La's, and has been dedicated by the band to Lee Mavers, in concert. Unhappy at this allusion to his reclusive status and Oasis' pilfering of his work in the past, Lee Mavers responded, "Noel needs to realise the importance of being honest." (Clash Music magazine, March 2009)
 
 
 
 
Noel and brother Liam had come far since first seeing The Stone Roses at Manchester International 2, the Anti-Clause 28 gig (30th May 1988). Noel had turned 21 the day before this gig, and brought his younger brother Liam, aged 15, along. Noel met guitarist Graham Lambert of Inspiral Carpets at the gig and the pair struck up friendship. When Noel heard singer Steve Holt was leaving the band, he auditioned to be the new vocalist; he was unsuccessful, but became part of their road crew for two years. Upon his return in 1991, he joined Liam's fledgling project, 'The Rain', and kickstarted them into action, quickly asserting his dominance over the group. Noel took the name Oasis from a venue in Swindon called the Oasis Leisure Centre, where Inspiral Carpets had played. It is sometimes claimed that Noel was first turned onto music at the Stone Roses gig; this was certainly true of Liam: "That was my favourite gig of all time, killed me dead, changed me fuckin' life. If I hadn't gone that night, I'd probably be sitting in some pub in Levenshulme." In Noel's case, however, it is worth noting that this gig was not the first moment that made him seriously consider becoming a musician; rather, another Mancunian band, The Smiths, were the catalyst:
Noel Gallagher (born 29th May 1967) was of The Smiths' generation, while Liam (born 21st September 1972) was more of the Roses'. The Smiths, formed in 1982, rose to prominence when Noel was in his teens, while the Roses broke through in the late 1980s, when Liam was in his teens. After the synth-heavy early 1980s, guitar bands were to enjoy a renaissance in the latter half of the decade, with Johnny Marr a key figure in rescuing the guitar pop genre. For those who grew up on punk, the 60s were not the cultural comfort blanket they have since become, as Ian Brown explained to Q magazine in February 1990: "Punk stopped you listening to stuff like Hendrix and then years later you hear Electric Ladyland and it's an excellent LP. But at the time you don't listen to it because you believe all the bollocks. I wish I'd heard Jimi Hendrix when I was 12." The Smiths were a key act in reigniting an interest in Sixties pop culture: "In the Sixties, records were actually worth something. People went out and bought a seven inch piece of plastic and they treasured it, which they don't seem to do any more. We're trying to bring back that precious element which is, I suppose, reminiscent of an earlier time, but then so what ? It's good to take a part of pop culture and bring it alive again and bring the human spirit back into it." (Johnny Marr speaking to Sounds, 19th November 1983) The Smiths were the archetypal indie group and first The Stone Roses, and then The La's, appeared to be the rightful heir to the indie crown; instead, it fell into the clutches of Oasis, who were set to radically redefine indie in the process. Speaking on the 10th Anniversary of Definitely Maybe, Oasis drummer Tony McCarroll reflected: "I think we stole the crown that The Stone Roses left up there for grabs as such." Spike Island's gathering of thirty thousand was dwarfed by Oasis performing to a quarter of a million over two nights at Knebworth in August 1996, as Britpop witnessed the independent music scene losing an integrity and intimacy that had once been cherished by their predecessors of the 1980s. 'Indie' became a meaningless label in a media-saturated environment, where its two leading figureheads, Blur and Oasis, seemed more than content to embellish rivalry in order to embrace a mainstream audience. A music scene which had once set its face against commercialism was now using sales figures to determine who was the superior act. The Britpop years witnessed indie music move out of the treasured domain of specialist record shops and onto the shelves at supermarkets. Indie music was no longer about being outside the mainstream - it was the mainstream. From now on, it would be a catch-all term for the sound of mainstream British rock. The indie scene ultimately lost its roots and would only begin to re-establish them in the following decade, performing in clubs and bars, with acts such as The Libertines going one step further and entertaining in front rooms.

 
(6) This is a view shared by other figures in music. Speaking about U2 in an NME article from 17th December 1994, Noel Gallagher said:
Indeed, Bono himself has often described the album as "the sound of four men trying to chop down The Joshua Tree." U2 closed out their 1989 Lovetown Tour with a series of shows at the Point Depot in Dublin, and on the third night (30th December 1989), Bono announced, "This is just the end of something for U2. ... We've got to go away for a while and dream it all up again." This sparked rumours of a U2 break up, which was not Bono's intention. The band knew they needed a new direction but were struggling to find it - key players in the Manchester music scene pointed the way. Two years later, they released an album unlike anything they had ever created in the past. Prior to this, a break up was considered, and even became likely until 'One' came together quickly and U2 were on their way again. U2 had shown their stadium potential at 1985's Live Aid and along with Queen, were the most notable acts at the event. U2's profile was raised by Bono's venture towards and embrace of a girl from the crowd, which was to become a defining image of the occasion, an act which Ian Brown is critical of:
The reasons why The Stone Roses never really became as big as they should have are often dissected and debated by fans and journalists alike. A range of factors contributed to this, such as an unwillingness to embrace the mainstream, a reticence to 'crack' America, legal wrangles breaking their momentum, a lethargy setting in, band members being on different drugs, and the deterioration of inter-band relationships. Whereas the norm for bands aspiring to reach (or maintain) major status is to block-book a large arena over a series of nights, The Stone Roses somewhat admirably refused to follow this route, instead preferring unique, one-off events. Ian explained to the NME in July 1990, "We're not going to get stuck into all that 40-date tour shit, the main reason being that I don't believe anyone's got enough energy to make every gig as good as the last one. It'd just turn you into morons." A prime example of the band's desired irregularity in this respect can be found in their gigging activity for May and June of 1990. Within the space of a fortnight, The Stone Roses performed to 30,000 fans next to a chemical plant at Spike Island, and the gym of Belfast Maysfield Leisure Centre, on the basketball courts. Speaking to the NME in December 1989 about the Alexandra Palace gig, Ian explained: "The promoter said, 'I've never met people like this, you could sell this place out three nights and make a load of money.' But I just couldn't do that. I couldn't say to people, 'Come and see me tonight. Then come and see me tomorrow night and see what different clothes I've got on.'" On a U.S. radio interview in 1995, Ian Brown took offence to advertisements for the U.S. Airforce, asking the very first caller on the show, "What do you think of that advert... Join the U.S. Airforce, bomb some babies ?" When the presenter of the show was wrapping up the interview, Ian tersely reminded him, "Don't be playing them adverts any more." Such brutal honesty epitomized the Roses' lack of mainstream biz sensibility, and one can imagine Geffen promptly crossing the band off the 'high promotion' list when they heard it. These are some of the main factors, but one crucial factor was the character of their manager, Gareth Evans. Evans' maverick nature undoubtedly played a role in the band's ascent, but it also served to hasten their downfall. Duping the band in various business deals while, at the same time, penny-pinching on big events like Spike Island, were the hallmarks of a manager whose business acumen was less in the mould of a Brian Epstein or Paul McGuinness, and more in line with an Arthur Daley or Derek Trotter. The Stone Roses were not entirely blameless in this respect, and were seemingly all too willing at times to play the role of fall guy. As Ian Brown reflects in his sleevenotes for the 20th Anniversary release of the Roses' debut LP, "...the thing with us was, the more people that would say to us, "Don't get him (Gareth), he's a dick," the more we'd think, "No, he's the man !" Evans's performance in the BBC3 documentary Blood on the Turntables is a hilarious cartoon of managerial hyperbole in which he takes credit for the band's success, style, sound, ideas, guitarist John Squire's Pollock-inspired cover paintings - just about everything, in fact, short of actually writing and recording the songs. While The Stone Roses were to disappear from view not long after their shoddily organised Spike Island festival, U2 were soon to take touring to a whole new level. The Zoo TV Tour was an elaborately-staged, multimedia concert tour by the band from February 1992 to December 1993, designed to instill a feeling of "sensory overload" in its audience, using the video age for much of its inspiration. In 2002, Q magazine described it as"still the most spectacular rock tour staged by any band." It comprised five legs, 157 shows, was seen by approximately 5.4 million people, and was the highest-grossing tour in North America of 1992. The tour marked a shift from the band's previous achingly earnest stage performances that had typified their tours in the 1980s.
 
(7) "They heard the records and thought, 'We can do a bit of Beatles, a bit of Jimi. Add a few dance beats and away we go'. Which is what great groups do."
(8)
 

 
Although U2 were using the Bible in their work prior to the release of The Stone Roses' debut LP, the influence of The Stone Roses on U2 in this respect is worthy of investigation. In a general sense, the influence of The Stone Roses on U2 is unquestionable, as evidenced by Bono's comments to Mani regarding Discotheque. Fellow musician, Shirley Manson of Garbage, echoes Brown's comments on how The Stone Roses' debut fused rock and dance, and highlights Bono's debt to Brown: "The (debut) record ran parallel with the rise of ecstasy and listening to the Roses in that context felt like some kind of movement, a rock band (who) could infiltrate dance culture....to this day I've seen everybody from Liam Gallagher to Bono ripping off his moves." (Shirley Manson quoted in Mojo magazine, January 2002). Compare Bono and U2 either side of 1990 and it's clear that the band were moving to a different beat; Bono's shift from foot to foot at 1.24 - 1.26 in 'The Fly' video, for example, would not look out of place in the One Love video. The U2 frontman's newfound insouciant swagger at the turn of the 90's was straight out of the Ian Brown indie handbook.
 
 
 
 

 
 

 

 
Modal analysis (by Steve Davidson):
This one starts with A major and D major, with the emphasis or tonal centre being the A major chord. So we are in A Ionian. The notes are:
(A B C# D E F# G# A)
The verse chords are A major, C# minor, D major and E major. So everything is still in A Ionian. The chorus chords are to start with A major and D major and the melody is still in A Ionian. Then we have a D major to G major sequence. Now the Key centre still returns to the A major chord. So what we have here is a modal change to A mixolydian.
Here are the notes:
(A B C# D E F# G A)
It goes back to the A Ionian mode for the rest of the song.
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